The short answer
- Yes, you can file. In October, employment-based applicants file I-485 using Chart B (Dates for Filing). For mainland China, EB-3 Chart B is April 1, 2024 and EB-2 Chart B is January 1, 2023. USCIS's October page says all employment-based categories use the Dates for Filing chart.
- Don't wait. USCIS decides the chart month by month, and nobody can promise November. In 11 of the 12 Octobers from 2015 to 2026, employment-based filings used Chart B, and each of the 10 finished runs lasted 2 to 8 months. That is history, not a forecast: if you can file in October, file in October.
- Do three things now: ask your company's immigration lawyers, book a USCIS-designated civil surgeon (Form I-693 must be filed with the I-485), and gather your birth notarization and marriage proof. Below we cover a PERM in another city, whether to downgrade to EB-3, and what to do while you are away for a few weeks.
In October, employment-based applicants can file I-485 (the adjustment of status application you file to get a green card from inside the US) using Chart B, the Dates for Filing chart. Many people have waited years for this. The moment the bulletin came out, the same questions started showing up in Chinese workplace chat groups:
- My PERM was filed for my old city, but I have since moved. Can I still file?
- My company's immigration lawyers haven't contacted me. Should I chase them?
- EB-3's Chart B is more than a year ahead of EB-2's. Should I downgrade?
- How long does Chart B usually stay open?
- Chart A is months away. Can I book the medical exam now? What if I have no vaccination record?
- I'm flying home for a few weeks. What should I get done?
- Does filing I-485 count as "settling abroad" under Chinese rules? Can I still renew my Chinese ID card?
We take them one at a time. For each, we separate rules with an official source from what people say in forums and groups. The second is useful, but it is not a rule.
01 My PERM is in city A, but I moved to city B. Can I still file?

The rules first
First, a PERM is tied to a worksite. A labor certification is valid only for the particular job, the person named, and the "area of intended employment" (20 CFR 656.30(c)(2)). There is no fixed mileage; it generally means normal commuting distance, roughly the same metro area. Moving to another state almost certainly takes you out of it.
Second, I-485 looks at your future job. In USCIS's words, at the time of filing the adjustment application, "the original petitioner must have had the intent to employ the beneficiary, and the beneficiary must also have intended to undertake the employment upon adjustment" (USCIS Policy Manual, Vol. 7, Part E, Ch. 5).
In other words, the rule cares about whether you will do the PERM job, at that location, after you get the green card. Where you work today is not the direct test.
Third, after 180 days you can change. This is AC21: with an approved I-140 and an I-485 pending 180 days or more, you can move to a job in the same or a similar occupation. USCIS says "the new job offer may be through the same employer that filed the petition or a different employer," so a different location with the same company counts. You report it with Form I-485 Supplement J.
So do you really have to move back?
Someone in a group said you "definitely have to relocate back to the original city to file." Someone else asked whether that means your home address or your job.
It means your job, not your address. The requirement is a genuine intent to take that job. Many corporate law firms ask employees to move back to the PERM city and work there for a while before filing, or at least to have a concrete plan to go back. That is how the firm makes the intent provable and lowers risk; it is not a rule that says "you must live there for X months."
So the real question is: after you get the green card, will you work at the PERM location?
- Yes (for example a temporary assignment or temporary remote work): you can usually file on the current PERM, but confirm with your company's attorney and keep documentation.
- No (you have settled in the new city and the company does not expect you back): the current PERM probably cannot support that intent. The usual fix is a new PERM and I-140 for the new location. An approved I-140 lets you keep your original priority date, but you go through the process again.
- Not sure: that is exactly the conversation to have with your attorney.
What people report in forums
The following are people's own accounts, not verified decisions.
- One reader's PERM was in a Midwestern state while they worked fully remote from another state. Their attorney asked them to move back to the PERM state for about 6 months before filing I-485.
- Another reader changed cities within the same company, and the company filed a new PERM for the new location. The new PERM listed the company's original address plus "remote work allowed," not their home address.
- A third reader's office was closing. Their attorney said short-term remote work was fine as long as they could return to that office; if the company would no longer have an office in that city, a new PERM was needed.
Three people, three outcomes. The difference is whether "I will go back" is actually true. One case does not make a rule, but these point the same way.
A popular theory: "stay at the PERM location from approval until 180 days after filing"
Some forum users reason that you only need to work at the PERM location from the day I-485 is approved until it has been 180 days since filing, and that if approval takes longer than 180 days, you can simply move with Supplement J.
It captures part of the AC21 logic, but it is a user's calculation; USCIS has no such rule. The weak point is that your intent at filing must be genuine. If you file already planning not to go back and are only counting days, the risk is yours if anyone asks. Treat it as a question for your attorney, not as a rule.
One path not to take: rent an apartment, change your address, don't actually move
A forum user asked whether they could rent an apartment in the PERM city and change their company, bank and credit card addresses without actually moving. One reply said: "Yes, don't tell anyone, including your lawyer."
We clearly advise against this.
- A willful misrepresentation in an immigration application is its own ground of inadmissibility, and it is permanent (INA 212(a)(6)(C)(i)). That is far worse than filing a few months later.
- Most people in this position are on H-1B, which is also tied to a worksite. Working in a different metro area already requires an H-1B amendment.
- State taxes, company records and login locations all show where you actually work.
A specific case: my H-1B is moving back to the original city, but the LCA is still pending. Can I file I-485 first?
One reader was already transferring their H-1B back to the original city, but the Labor Condition Application (LCA, which must be filed with the Department of Labor before an H-1B worksite change) was still pending.
The I-485 itself does not require your current H-1B worksite to match the PERM; it looks at the future-job intent described above. So in principle you do not have to wait for the H-1B amendment. Many firms still prefer to line up the H-1B first so the records match. That is the firm's risk management, so follow your own firm's plan, and ask them directly: "Can I file I-485 now and do the H-1B amendment in parallel?"
02 My company's lawyers haven't contacted me. Should I chase them?
Yes, and do it now.
Large companies usually hand immigration cases to an outside law firm that works in batches. When the bulletin moves, hundreds or thousands of employees become eligible at once, and the firm sends questionnaires and collects documents one by one. Waiting to be contacted can cost you weeks. More importantly, USCIS can switch back to Chart A any month, so Chart B in October does not guarantee Chart B in November.
What to do:
- Email your company's immigration contact (the HR immigration team, or your case contact at the law firm) with your priority date, category and I-140 status, and say that Chart B is current in October and you would like to file I-485 this month.
- Ask three things:
- Does the company allow filing under Chart B? Some companies wait for Chart A.
- What documents do they need from you, and by when?
- If your worksite no longer matches the PERM (see above), how will they handle it?
- Start preparing in parallel: passport, notarial birth certificate, marriage certificate, and the medical exam, which takes the longest (see below).
03 EB-3 is so far ahead of EB-2. Should I downgrade?
For China mainland in October, EB-3 Chart B is April 1, 2024 and EB-2 Chart B is January 1, 2023, more than a year apart. If you are EB-2 with a priority date between 2023 and March 2024, you cannot file under EB-2 this month, but you could under EB-3.
A downgrade needs your employer to file an EB-3 I-140, and you can keep your priority date. There are several moving parts: whether your employer will do it, whether you can switch back, and which Chart A moves first. We covered it in detail here:
https://visa.careerengine.us/en/cases/eb2-eb3-downgrade-2026-09
For how the October bulletin moved overall and whether Chart A will catch up, see our analysis:
https://visa.careerengine.us/en/analysis/visa-bulletin-2026-10
04 How long does Chart B usually stay open?
USCIS decides the chart month by month. Nobody can promise anything, and we do not predict November. But we have the record for all 133 months from October 2015 to now. Below is every run in which employment-based filings used Chart B (Dates for Filing), and each row links to the USCIS page of that time so you can check it:
| Run | Months on Chart B | Length | Back to Chart A |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | October 2015 – November 2015 | 2 months | December 2015 |
| 2 | October 2016 – December 2016* | 3 months | January 2017 |
| 3 | October 2018 – January 2019 | 4 months | February 2019 |
| 4 | October 2019 – March 2020 | 6 months | April 2020 |
| 5 | October 2020 – December 2020 | 3 months | January 2021 |
| 6 | October 2021 – May 2022 | 8 months | June 2022 |
| 7 | October 2022 – March 2023 | 6 months | April 2023 |
| 8 | October 2023 – February 2024 | 5 months | March 2024 |
| 9 | October 2024 – January 2025 | 4 months | February 2025 |
| 10 | October 2025 – April 2026 | 7 months | May 2026 |
| 11 | From October 2026 | in progress | not yet |
* For October to December 2016 the USCIS page did not name the chart. We compared the date table on the page with the State Department bulletins cell by cell and concluded it was Chart B. For every other month the USCIS page names the chart for employment-based filings: the October and November 2015 pages are headed "Dates for Filing Employment-Based Adjustment of Status Applications", December 2015 is "Application Final Action Dates for Employment-Based Preference Cases", January 2017 is "Final Action Dates for Employment-Based Adjustment of Status Applications"; for October 2026 the USCIS page says "For all employment-based preference categories, you must use the Dates for Filing chart in the Department of State Visa Bulletin for October 2026".
What you can read directly from the table:
- In 11 of the 12 Octobers (2015–2026), employment-based filings used Chart B. The one exception was 2017: from October 2017 to September 2018 the whole fiscal year used Chart A.
- Every run began in October. None has ever started in another month.
- Each run lasted 2 to 8 months (not counting the current one), and none lasted past May. Of the 10 runs that have ended, 1 went back to Chart A in December, 5 in January to March, and 4 in April to June.
- In each of the 10 years from 2015 to 2025 when October used Chart B, November did too. That describes the past; it says nothing certain about this November.
When does USCIS usually announce? Each month's page shows a "Last Reviewed/Updated" date. Across the 76 monthly pages since March 2017 whose dates were not later overwritten in a bulk update, that date falls between the 3rd and the 28th of the previous month, with a median of the 16th, and 51 of them are within a day of when we received the State Department bulletin. On the November pages (2018 to 2023 and 2025) the date was October 12, 18, 28, 14, 7, 6 and 15. So in the past the November chart was mostly known around mid-October; check the official USCIS page. This is the review date shown on the page, which is not necessarily the day it was first posted.
This is only the record of the past and not a forecast. File in October if you can.
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05 Chart A is months away. Can I book the medical exam now? No vaccination record?

Book it now
The medical exam does not wait for Chart A. Since December 2, 2024, Form I-693 (the immigration medical exam) must be filed together with I-485, or USCIS may reject the I-485. So if you want to file under Chart B this month, you need the exam now.
Many people worry the exam will "expire." Under current policy, an I-693 signed by a civil surgeon on or after November 1, 2023 remains valid for the whole time the I-485 it was filed with is pending. The old rule requiring filing within 60 days of the doctor's signature was permanently removed on March 31, 2023 (USCIS Policy Manual, Vol. 8, Part B, Ch. 4).
The exam is done by a USCIS-designated civil surgeon. Appointments in busy areas can take a week or two, so call early. For how to find a doctor, what happens on the day, vaccines and who pays, see The I-485 Medical Exam.
Which vaccines
The rules are in the CDC's technical instructions for civil surgeons. The list: diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, measles, mumps, rubella, rotavirus, Hib, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, meningococcal, varicella, pneumococcal and influenza. What you need depends on your age; the doctor marks the rest "not age appropriate." Influenza is required only during flu season. As of the CDC page's March 2025 update, COVID-19 is no longer on the list.
Do old records count? Are copies OK?
The CDC says acceptable documentation "must come from a vaccination record, either a personal vaccination record or a copy of a medical chart with entries made by a physician or other appropriate medical personnel," and every dose needs the month, day and year. "Self-reported vaccine doses without written documentation are not acceptable."
So:
- A Chinese vaccination booklet, or school or workplace health records, can usually be shown to the doctor if medical staff made the entries with full dates. Whether a copy is enough is the civil surgeon's call, so bring the original.
- Many US states keep electronic immunization records. In California, for example, you can pull your digital record from the state's vaccine record system. Other states have similar registries.
No records: antibody test or just get the shots?
The CDC accepts lab evidence of immunity (an antibody test) for measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, polio and varicella. If the test shows immunity, you do not need that shot.
Something many people don't know: if you have never had any dose of a vaccine, the exam only requires the first dose of the series, not the whole series on the spot.
How people in the groups choose:
- Probably vaccinated as a child and don't want many shots at once: test antibodies first.
- Want it simple and don't want to wait for lab results: get the shots. Some get them from their own doctor through insurance, which can be cheaper than at the civil surgeon.
Which is cheaper depends on your insurance and the civil surgeon's prices, so ask for a quote.
06 I'm flying home for a few weeks. What should I get done?
A reader whose Chart B date just became current was flying back to China for three weeks the next day. They asked whether to get their birth certificate there, do the medical exam on return, contact the lawyers, and think about downgrading. That plan is right. A few additions:
- Birth certificate: easiest to get in China. The State Department's reciprocity schedule lists a notarial birth certificate issued by a notary office for China mainland. While you are there, go to the notary office where your household registration is. Whether you need the Chinese original or an English translation too, follow your law firm's document list.
- Contact the lawyers before you leave. Tell them your dates so they can start preparing forms while you are away, and you can sign and file as soon as you are back.
- Do the medical exam as soon as you return. It has to be filed with the I-485 (see above).
- Work out the timing. Back in three weeks means late October, and the exam plus signatures take time. Count backward with your lawyers to see whether you can file before October 31. If you cannot make it: in each of the past 10 years when October used Chart B, November did too, but that is not a guarantee (see section 04).
- Ask about downgrading now. If you want to move from EB-2 to EB-3, your employer has to file an EB-3 I-140 first, which takes time. Raise it before you leave.
- Be careful about travel after filing. Leaving the US while I-485 is pending generally requires advance parole first, or the I-485 is treated as abandoned. People who hold a valid H-1B or L-1 visa and have maintained that status are an exception and can return on it (8 CFR 245.2(a)(4)(ii)(C)). This trip is before filing, so it is not affected, but check this rule before any future trip.
07 Does filing I-485 count as "settling abroad"? Can I still renew my Chinese ID card?
Someone asked whether filing I-485 under Chart B makes you a Chinese citizen "settled abroad," and whether you can still renew your Chinese resident ID card.
Filing I-485 is not getting a green card. While it is pending, you do not have US permanent residence.
China has an official definition of "settled abroad," from the Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of the State Council: a citizen who has obtained long-term or permanent residence in the country where they live and has lived there continuously for two years, with at least 18 months there within those two years. There is also a clause people often miss: someone without permanent residence who has had lawful residence abroad continuously for five years or more, with at least 30 months there within those five years, is also treated as an overseas Chinese. So some people who have worked in the US for years may already meet the definition, regardless of filing I-485.
How ID cards and household registration are handled in practice varies by locality, so follow your local public security bureau's rules.
Someone in the group suggested reporting the ID card lost now to get a new one that lasts 20 years. Reporting a card lost when it is not is a false report, and we don't recommend it.
08 My spouse lives in another state. Can we file the I-485 together?
A spouse must also be physically in the United States and meet the filing requirements personally. The I-485 instructions say you must be physically present in the United States to file, and that whether you are the principal or a derivative applicant, you must file your own I-485. On that basis, a spouse can file at the same time, or later. USCIS's I-485 instructions (edition 09/18/26) say a spouse or child of a principal applicant, if a visa is immediately available, may file at the same time as the principal applicant, or while the principal applicant's I-485 is still pending. Each person has their own I-485.
Where to mail it: USCIS's “Direct Filing Addresses for Form I-485” page (last updated 2025-12-01) says that for employment-based applications with a pending or approved I-140, the Lockbox address depends on the state where you live; use that page to see which Lockbox serves which state. The page does not say what a couple living in different states should do. Whether to put both applications in one envelope or mail them separately, and which state's address each uses, is not answered by the official page; ask your law firm.
Biometrics and interview: the I-485 instructions say USCIS may ask you to appear at a USCIS office for an interview, and the place and time come from the notice USCIS sends you. We found no official statement that spouses must be scheduled at the same location. You must tell USCIS within 10 days of changing your address.
09 My I-485 is pending and I renewed my passport. Does that matter?
The official instructions have no rule that renewing a passport affects an I-485. They ask for a photocopy of a government-issued photo ID, and their example is “passport (even if expired).” They also ask for copies of the passport pages showing your visas, admission stamps and I-94 records. So the visa and entry pages in your old passport are still useful; keep the old passport after you get the new one.
What the instructions do not say: whether you must tell USCIS about a new passport after filing, or how to submit it, is not addressed in the I-485 instructions. Ask your law firm whether to send the new passport details, and whether the passport number on your I-693 or other forms needs updating.
10 I filed under Chart B. Do review and the interview happen before or after Chart A?
Short answer: The USCIS Policy Manual does not say a Chart B case cannot be worked until Chart A is current. It says a case that has no visa number yet is processed up to the point of final approval, and the approval itself waits until a visa number is available.
What the Policy Manual says
Source: USCIS Policy Manual, Vol. 7, Part A, Ch. 6, Section C (Verify Visa Availability), subsections 4 and 5.
- There are two checks, one at filing and one at approval. “A visa must be available both at the time an applicant files Form I-485 and at the time USCIS approves the application.” The manual's table says that at filing you look at the chart USCIS designated in the Visa Bulletin in effect when you filed, and at final adjudication you look at the “Application Final Action Dates” chart, which is what we call Chart A.
- Which chart you file under comes from USCIS's “Adjustment of Status Filing Charts from the Visa Bulletin” page (last reviewed 10/01/2026). It says the chart determines “when you may file your adjustment of status application,” and for October 2026 employment-based filings, “you must use the Dates for Filing chart.” That page is about filing only; it does not address approval.
- What happens when a visa was available at filing but not at final adjudication. Subsection 5 (Visa Retrogression): “the case should be retained, pre-processed, and adjudicated up to the point of final approval.” And: “The officer should ensure that the interview and all other processing requirements, including resolution of security checks, have been completed prior to shipping the otherwise approvable case.”
- The last step waits for a visa number. “Final adjudication cannot be completed until a visa has been requested and DOS approves the visa request.” Once a number is available, an officer does a final review, including updating expired security checks, which “may also include issuing a Request for Evidence (RFE)” if it is unclear whether the applicant is still eligible, “particularly in those cases that have had a long-delayed final adjudication.”
So, for this question
- Review can happen before Chart A. The manual has the case worked up to the point where only the visa number is missing.
- The interview (if your case has one) can happen before Chart A. The manual says it is completed before the case is sent on.
- RFE: the manual says one may be issued at the final review after a visa number is available. Whether one is issued during earlier review, before Chart A, the manual does not say; that depends on the case.
- Approval comes after Chart A reaches your priority date. That step does not happen early.
What we cannot tell you
- This passage sits under the heading “Visa Retrogression” and is written for cases where a visa was available at filing but not at approval. Chart B filers are in that situation, so we read it as applying, but the manual has no separate paragraph written specifically for Chart B filings.
- The manual does not promise that any given case will be reviewed, interviewed or sent an RFE before Chart A, and it gives no timing. We cannot say when anything will happen on an individual case, and we do not predict future bulletins.
- Not everyone has an interview; that depends on how USCIS handles your case, and the notice you receive controls.
If USCIS sends you anything (RFE, biometrics, interview notice), respond by the date on it; do not wait for Chart A. Ask your law firm how to handle your case.
When you really need a lawyer
For the documents to gather, use our employment-based I-485 document checklist: separate lists for the principal, spouse and children, ready to print and tick off.

This article gathers the rules and people's experience. It does not replace a lawyer, especially if:
- your current worksite is in a different metro area from the PERM and you are not sure you will go back after the green card
- your company's office has closed or is closing
- you are considering a downgrade from EB-2 to EB-3
- you need to travel after filing I-485
- you have a child close to 21 (CSPA age uses Chart A, not Chart B)
Sources: 20 CFR 656.30(c)(2); USCIS Policy Manual, Vol. 7, Part E, Ch. 5 (AC21 and Supplement J); INA 212(a)(6)(C)(i); USCIS Policy Manual, Vol. 7, Part A, Ch. 6, Section C, subsections 4 and 5 (visa availability at filing and approval); USCIS “Adjustment of Status Filing Charts from the Visa Bulletin” page (reviewed 10/01/2026); USCIS Policy Manual, Vol. 8, Part B, Ch. 4 (I-693 validity); 8 CFR 245.2(a)(4)(ii)(C); CDC, Vaccination Technical Instructions for Civil Surgeons (updated March 2025); USCIS chart designations October 2015 to October 2026 (this site's database; every row of the section 04 table links to that month's USCIS When to File page); Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of the State Council, Provisions on Defining the Status of Overseas Chinese. Forum cases come from public discussions on a Chinese immigration forum and are people's own accounts, not verified. This article is not legal advice.
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